An imaginary interview with Mr. Prof. Sivanandan, present Commissioner of Police, Mumbai – by Dr. G Balakrishnan, ex. visiting faculty of JBIMS, WITH HIS REMINISCENCES when both were to address on different days to 27 Top senior police officials of all States of India sometime in January 2006, as part of the training program organized by Union Home Ministry through JBIMS (Mumbai university) to reduce stress level of police, a psychological exercise!(Sunny News Interviewer- imaginary responses from Mr. Sivanandan)
This imaginary interview is the reflection of expectations of Mumbai citizens, after 26/11, as most of the citizens are concerned with safety and security of all people of Mumbai, irrespective of MNS activists cry for ‘Marati Manoos’ only shall be Mumbai!
Thank God, Raj Thakeray is not insisting CP post at Mumbai for Marati Manoos only, as ‘Raj is concerned with his own safety’, perhaps that did not make him to take the bogey of Marati Manoos, may be Raj is not sure about his own ‘Manoos’ only, when his own safety might be in trouble. So, too ‘Bal’ and ‘Uddhav’ of Shiv Sena. After all who wants to die!
You say you are the CEO of Mumbai – is it not difficult like the statement of JRD Tata statement –‘If I have any merit, it is getting along with individuals, according to their ways and characteristics…At times it involves suppressing yourself, it is painful but necessary … to be a leader you have got to lead human beings with affection.’ (1904 – 1993)…you have a big force of police men with different tastes developed by your predecessors in office of CP with their own commitments with so called ministers to make hay when sun shines, how would you propose to handle them, and even today your Home Minister seem to be much different than Mr. R R. Patil and he seems to have transferred ‘anti mafia police officer’ in Ms. Maithili Jha, an IPS from Mira road, a mafia infested surrounding area, reported in Mirror dated Aug 2, in which your real interview appeared, just because your Home Minister NCP-man Mr. Jayant Patil may have succumbed to them (Mafia), perhaps he might be needing moneys from such Mafia, as Maharashtra elections are in cards shortly? Does it mean Ministers can play police with the life of people who are forced to elect these worthies?
Siva.. When I was trained as IPS officer and posted to Maharashtra, I
thought I have complete free hand to fight and remove all unsocial elements, as I had been made to believe so in the Lal Bahadur Sastri Institute of Administrative Studies at Moussourie, but when I took position I was a little baffled lot and when I asked my colleagues, they said, ‘if you have to be successful, you have to toe the line of politicians in power’ that is the bane of democracy.
I felt sad. Yet ‘I made up my mind to work with contradictions’. Yes, you still have a method to work by convincing the politicians, the importance of public support of public. So I was able to do away 230 hardened criminals, some times these very criminals get a price over the head of politicians, also, those kinds of intelligent reports every time comes to us from intelligence net-work.
Purpose of police is to maintain law and Order. After all, supporting ‘wrong people’ when it becomes law and Order problem, politicians would like to ‘extricate themselves’, in the manner lesser problems of public outcry is acceptable to them, else their own lives will be in trouble.
Interviewer: Good. Now you see, Ms. Mithili Jha IPS sent out from
Mira Road and a state service police officer at his fag end of service is posted at Mira Road in her place, does it mean what that man paid to the Home Minister, in terms of money, has to be recovered by the policeman in charge and that way Ministers make scape goats out of people?
Siva. (Carefully) That I cannot say. Mostly policemen if they are not
mentally ‘Very-sound’, they just give in to such pressures of politicians. Politicians out of political workers make the bargain.
If political workers are just adamant, we will have to find a way out and deal with it. That is not very difficult at all, not succumbing to them, after all with a little of not so well-trained police force we have to maintain law and order at all costs. Police budgets are given a go by, by politicians
Problem sometimes arise from police man himself if he is imprudent, mostly they are unfortunately driven by greed. Mostly the problems arise by greed of men in the force and political-men too.
Int….Encounters are needed evil to maintain law and order is it not?
Siva... Smilingly, it is the best friend to weed out dead wood. Kings
did use, by their own Machiavelli machinations. Police senior men should read and study ‘Prince’, great work in Roman period, in Europe.
Int….Does it mean even the Governor can be made a scape-goat, as is
done-away with in ‘Prince’?
Siva… That is historical determination, as said by
Dr. S. Radhakrishnan, one of our most respected Presidents of India, in his essay on ‘Parliamentary Democracy’, under social and political histories of any country, after all no one can rule for ever unless he or she is prudent enough to understand the people’s minds or prisoners’. That was proved in France in Bastille prison break-in. In this they just guillotined all jailers, nobles, even the king and queen
Int….You have got proper understanding of social and political cum
economic history.
If you want to save earth, you have understand ‘Earth is an incredible place, teeming with animals, insects, fishes,, birds, plants and people. All these species react when things become unbearable…like honey bees, when you unnecessarily attack, it will retaliate and its retaliation is such, it will take time to recuperate.
Like Nova’s Ark in space, earth (it) provides a home, for all. It gives shelter, warmth,, food, water, (we drink), and air( we breath).
Like Nova’s boat, our Ark needs looking after. Its air, oceans, and rains need to be cleaned up, its forests saved and its soil protected from harmful influences of chemicals, man created unnecessarily to his own peril.
Indeed it is very difficult task but we have to protect earth and we cannot escape from it. So is the principle of Law and Order, is a mechanism to save environment of man and animals, plants, -fore rests…
You as police man you are right to call yourself as CEO of Mumbai with brimming population.
Public minded minister or politicians need no policeman to protect him, …..but self glorifying selfish-minister or politician can be saved by policeman only with big police posse.
Actually this kind of men masquerade as politicians and ministers supporting mafias... like Dawoods and you are seeing what is happening to Pakistani politicians and in fact they are controlled by Taliban, LeT and like men…the same story might befall on Indian politicians, if they do not mend their ways, may be exterminated by such forces in India too, can the politicians think they are safe with the Mafia – enemies of common man.
But if common man arises all these men including Mafias could be exterminated for ever!. Whether our politicians want to meet this situation sooner or latter?
Siva…No politician or his kin would like to meet such quick finish of,
after all they want to rule 100 more years, to live with their grand- grand - great children, hence they cling to power not knowing the power is such a double edged weapon.
As a matter of fact, I have to tackle situations of 26/11, as still the disaster management is not in place in Mumbai, after all Mumbai is about 500 sq. kilometers mega polis with about 2 crores of population, with a very big sea front in the west.
I think of going to USA to study how they are tackling 9/11 of New York and how they are protecting other mega polis in USA, after all we are concerned with after 26/11.
USA is unusually friendly to India, and we have to protect ourselves and simultaneously be continuously in research and development of disaster management till Al Qaeda, Taliban, LeT and like forces in our neighboring Pakistan are completely nipped.
Int….You are a fitting CEO and many CP(s) in Maharashtra take to
your foot steps (cue), after all many of them great Yes Minister type, unfortunately many politicians do not know their end will be sooner, as they will be exterminated by mafia forces, after Mafia is Mafia, it has no relationship at all and it also does not believe in relations, as they are prudent all relations are just time serving mechanism.
So we do not know when the politicians’ as pack of cards will collapse, after all, all of them build castles in air, not knowing realities.
Mr. Veerappa Moily, our great Union Law Minister is in pipe dream on Gay Judgment of Delhi High Court, without realizing religious unacceptability of such a ‘U’ turn in Social structural prudence, like Mohammed Bin Tughlak when moved capital from Delhi to Doulagiri, considered a man ahead of times and he had make a beating of Retreat.
Unfortunately Indian Gay population is jus a miniscule and how that will help Congress to bag big majority, anybody’s guess, after all India all said and done is conservative and you see you passed all Dowry Laws but still Dowry is going on and very ministers and politicians, executives need dowry.
The same fate will be if Gay Laws are made and it is definite Congress might lose many seats in Maharashtra assembly elections, if it goes ahead with Gay Laws.
Any way thank you Mr. CEO of Mumbai and we wish all success in all your great attempts/efforts to neutralize a large portion of Mafias, by your ideal of ENCOUNTERS. (ENDS)
Note:
Moral of this imaginary interview is that all the politicians, executives should know if people rise in revolt then all these worthies are no match to power of people. Power of people will exterminate all these worthies. Under Constitutional dispensations the people control themselves and under the same dispensations, these worthies too understand their Fundamental Duties. Otherwise, it will turn out to be like Bastille prison break-in, and that means beginning of anarchy!
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